Nutrition on the Joe Rogan Experience

“They paid three Harvard scientists the equivalent of $50,000 in today's dollars to publish a 1967 review of research on sugar, fat, and heart disease.”

Patrick claims the sugar industry paid three Harvard scientists roughly $50,000 in today's money to publish a 1967 NEJM review that downplayed sugar's role in heart disease and blamed saturated fat instead.

“But there are now actually identification of several cancers that thrive on fats rather than carbohydrates.”

Galpin claims that several cancers have been identified as thriving on fat rather than carbohydrates/sugar.

“So it makes sense that nature would make a way that showed that people that take preformed ALA, alpha-linolenic acid, have to take 33.5 times more than preform…”

Patrick claims plant-based ALA omega-3 must be consumed at 33.5 times the dose of preformed DHA/EPA to achieve equivalent brain DHA/EPA levels.

“Well, most people don't understand that the sugar industry's hijacking of science in the 1950s, the way they paid off those scientists to literally false adver…”

Speaker claims the sugar industry paid scientists in the 1950s to falsely blame saturated fat/cholesterol for heart disease instead of sugar.

“If you look at red meat consumption in the U.S. since about 1977, so red meat has gone down about 30% to 40%. Really? Yeah. We used to eat way more in the 70s.…”

Baker claims U.S. red meat consumption has fallen 30-40% since 1977 and that population testosterone levels have dropped by roughly the same amount over the same period, implying a causal link.

“Hong Kong right now, if you look up, if you Google Hong Kong life expectancy, they live the longest out of anybody in the world, right? They eat about 40% more…”

Baker claims Hong Kong has the world's longest life expectancy and that its residents eat about 40% more red meat than Americans, implying red meat consumption explains their longevity.

“They looked at people with chronic constipation. They were always constipated and the only thing that helped them was taking all fiber out of their diet.”

Baker cites a study claiming that people with chronic constipation were only helped by removing all fiber from their diet.

“there was, you know, the World Health Organization two years ago, last year, two years ago, declared that red meat was a class two carcinogen and processed mea…”

Baker states the WHO/IARC classified red meat as a class 2 carcinogen and processed meat as class 1, then frames this classification as based on weak epidemiology and questionable rat studies.

“There's some health organization in UK that did a press release and said that the average five-year-old consumes 50 grams of sugar a day”

Patrick claims a UK health organization reported that the average five-year-old consumes 50 grams of sugar per day, then muddles whether this figure is daily or equal to a year's worth matching body weight.

“there was a study that was recently published men that had like atherosclerosis, they were given 2.4 grams of garlic a day. And it actually slowed the accumula…”

Patrick claims a study found 2.4 grams of garlic per day slowed arterial plaque accumulation by about 80% in men with atherosclerosis.

“So five-year increase in life expectancy, like that's huge compared to people like, you know, on the low end of the range.”

Patrick claims a Framingham study found people with a high omega-3 index have a life expectancy five years longer than those with a low omega-3 index.

“they were 17% less likely to die prematurely of all causes, including accidents”

A cohort study of omega-3 index found people in the high range (>7%) were 17% more likely to die prematurely from all causes, including accidents, compared to the low range (<4%) -- as described, this appears to have the direction reversed.

“If meat caused cancer, most people would have cancer. 95 plus percent of the population on earth eats meat.”

Baker argues that because most people eat meat and most people don't get cancer, meat cannot cause cancer.

“by the time they're eight years old the average eight-year-old has eaten more sugar than somebody would have eaten in their entire life you know and?”

Baker claims the average 8-year-old today has consumed more sugar than a person would have eaten in an entire lifetime around 150 years ago.

“The results in the ultra-processed DGA menu that was created, 91% of the kilocalories were from ultra-processed food or NOVA Category 4.”

Baker cites a study claiming a menu built to meet U.S. Dietary Guidelines can be 91% ultra-processed food by calories and still score as healthy.

“You know, 80% of medical schools in the United States don't require a single nutrition course. Not one minute of nutrition. And yet 90% of our healthcare costs…”

Casey Means claims 80 percent of US medical schools do not require a single nutrition course while 90 percent of healthcare costs are tied to disease.

“A cigarette will consume 75 milligrams of vitamin C, and they tell you that you only need 190 milligrams a day. That's the FDA requirement.”

Humphries claims one cigarette consumes 75 milligrams of vitamin C and that the FDA daily requirement is 190 milligrams.

“isn't so much that as the IGF-1, which doesn't cause cancer, but it allows cancer cells to grow... You eat meat, it causes cancer. Well, no, that's not necessa…”

Rhonda Patrick claims IGF-1 does not cause cancer but only promotes growth of existing damaged/cancerous cells, disputing a direct 'meat causes cancer' framing.

“if you look at refined sugar, also refined sugar is associated with heart disease risk. In fact, it's like one of the, you know, there was a big, big study, li…”

Rhonda Patrick claims a study of 400,000 people found the highest refined-sugar consumers had four times the risk of heart attack.

“It isn't even obvious you need vitamin C. Now I'm going to get killed for that. Apparently, there's some indication that you only require vitamin C if you eat …”

Peterson claims there is some indication that vitamin C is only required by the body if a person eats carbohydrates, implying it is unnecessary on a pure carnivore diet.

“And, oh, yeah, just before she debated, a study was released that was published by Harvard epidemiologists. I think they were epidemiologists. They did a retro…”

Peterson describes a retrospective survey study of 2,400 people on a carnivore diet for six months, published by Harvard epidemiologists via Oxford University Press, showing radical weight loss and a 90% reduction in self-reported disease symptoms.

“the prevailing research and the literature suggests that you can burn about 1.0 grams of fat per minute during exercise. Like that would be about how much fat …”

Greenfield cites a named 'FASTER study' as showing high-fat dieters can burn 1.5 to 1.7 grams of fat per minute during exercise, versus a supposed 1.0 g/min ceiling in the general literature, with no loss in performance.

“For people that think that drinking a large glass of orange juice is different than drinking a glass of soda, it's really not.”

Rhonda Patrick claims that drinking a large glass of orange juice is essentially no different from drinking a glass of soda.

“there's been studies showing that like 75% of the microbiome population changes and like, when you don't get at all any fiber”

Rhonda Patrick claims studies show that 75% of a person's gut microbiome population changes when fiber intake drops to zero.

“That has been shown to get into the developing fetal brain 10 times better than DHA and non-phospholipid form, free fatty acid form.”

Rhonda Patrick claims phospholipid-form DHA (found in fish roe) reaches the developing fetal brain ten times more effectively than standard free-fatty-acid-form DHA.

“found that like a low folate diet caused damage to DNA the same as being irradiated by an x-ray machine. The exact same.”

Rhonda Patrick claims a study found that a low-folate diet causes DNA damage equivalent to being irradiated by an x-ray machine.

“There's studies in men where like they give men 75 grams of refined sugar and their testosterone drops by 25%. I mean, it's changing a lot of things, you know,…”

Rhonda Patrick claims a study found giving men 75 grams of refined sugar caused a 25% drop in testosterone.