Government Waste on the Joe Rogan Experience

“My guess is that probably saves 100 billion a year.”

Musk estimates that requiring mandatory payment categorization codes at Treasury will save roughly $100 billion a year.

“So, I mean, there's a lot of payments that. Where someone just approved the payment, but then that payment officer changed jobs or retired or died, and the pay…”

Musk claims federal payments frequently keep flowing indefinitely after the approving officer changes jobs, retires, or dies, comparing it to a forgotten gym membership costing billions.

“responsible for almost $5 trillion of payments a year, roughly a billion dollars an hour.”

Musk claims the Treasury's payments system ("PAM") processes almost $5 trillion a year, or roughly a billion dollars an hour, often with no payment categorization code or description.

“It was a case where we saw one person was getting $1.9 billion sent to their NGO, which basically got formed about a year ago and had no prior, really no prior…”

Musk claims DOGE found a one-year-old NGO with no prior activity receiving $1.9 billion in government funds.