Surveillance on the Joe Rogan Experience

“In 2013, you know, when this first came out, President Obama went out on stage, because he was getting singed in the press, and said, take it from me, nobody i…”

Snowden attributes to President Obama a direct quote saying 'nobody is listening to your phone calls' in response to the 2013 NSA leaks.

“They said, you know, first they said mass surveillance had stopped 54 terrorist attacks in the United States. Then they dropped it to seven. And then they drop…”

Snowden claims the government's public justification for mass NSA surveillance shrank from stopping 54 terrorist attacks to 7, then to just 1.

“You can have, like, the Jewel versus NSA case that's run by the EFF, which is about AT&T setting up secret rooms in their telecommunications facilities where t…”

Snowden claims the EFF's Jewel v. NSA lawsuit documents secret AT&T facility rooms that funnel domestic internet and phone traffic for NSA collection, which AT&T and the NSA deny.

“Why didn't he show up? He won't comment. Oh, wow. He won't. He's been reached out to comment on it.”

Rogan claims Bernie Sanders skipped a Senate vote on a Patriot Act surveillance provision (allowing warrantless review of internet search/browsing history), and that his absence let the measure pass when his vote would have blocked it.

“Section 702 of FISA gives our government the authority to surveil foreign actors, essentially, to try to identify terrorist threats. But part of that is they h…”

Section 702 of FISA lets the government surveil foreign actors and capture the communications of Americans who talk with those foreign targets.

“That court, and this is public information, that court approves 99.999999% of all requests that the government makes to go in and surveil American citizens. It…”

The FISA court approves about 99.999999 percent of government requests to surveil, making it essentially a rubber stamp.

“this foreign intelligence surveillance court that the government says authorized these programs 15 different times was overruled by the first open courts to lo…”

Snowden claims the NSA violated its own surveillance rules 2,776 times in a single year and that federal courts overruled a FISA court that had authorized the programs on 15 separate occasions.

“Dell ended up getting beat out by Amazon. People, you know, some people aren't familiar with this. Many of them are. But Amazon runs a secret cloud system for …”

Snowden, who earlier says he worked for Dell as the senior technical official on Dell's CIA sales account, claims Dell lost a government cloud-computing contract to Amazon, which he says now runs a secret cloud system for U.S. intelligence agencies.

“The FBI was spying on Martin Luther King and trying to get Martin Luther King to kill himself before the Nobel Prize was going to be awarded. In fact, after ML…”

Snowden claims the FBI spied on Martin Luther King Jr., tried to induce him to kill himself before he received the Nobel Peace Prize, and that two days after his 'I Have a Dream' speech the FBI classified him as the nation's greatest domestic security threat.

“was Congress passed an emergency law in 2007 called the Protect America Act, which should have been our first indication this is a very bad thing... and what i…”

Snowden claims the 2007 Protect America Act retroactively immunized telecom companies from lawsuits over illegally handing over customer records to the government.

“does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? MR. No, sir. MR. It does not? MR. Not wittingly. There are cases…”

Snowden claims Director of National Intelligence James Clapper lied under oath to Congress (Senator Ron Wyden) in March 2013 by testifying the NSA did not knowingly collect data on millions of Americans, and later admitted it was false.

“Obama's saying, you know, that's not who we are that's not what we do um and yet within 100 days of him becoming a president uh now he's sitting in that chair …”

Snowden claims candidate Obama campaigned against Bush-era warrantless wiretapping but within 100 days of taking office reversed course and expanded the surveillance programs.

“The US government spies on its own population more than the north korean government spies on its. That's just a fact.”

Carlson asserts as fact that the US government surveils its own citizens more than North Korea surveils its population.

“So basically warrantless. Oh, of course. Warrantless, absolutely. And in, you know, violation of the fourth amendment to the constitution.”

Carlson claims the Turner-Himes surveillance bill discussed would authorize warrantless spying on Americans in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

“We've had the FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance act, since, I think, 1977, so it predates. 911. Did it stop 911? Oh, I don't think it did.”

Carlson states FISA has existed since 1977 and argues that since it predated 9/11 without preventing it, surveillance powers don't deliver the safety benefits claimed.

“AT&T keeps those records going back to 2008 under a program called Hemisphere. If you search for Hemisphere and AT&T, you'll get a story in the Daily Beast abo…”

Snowden says AT&T's Hemisphere program retains call records "going back to 2008," then says AT&T's phone records go back to 1983 (he immediately self-corrects to 1987 in the next breath, off-quote).

“They literally brought down the president of Bolivia, his aircraft, and would not let it depart as it tried to cross the airspace of Europe, not even the Unite…”

Snowden claims multiple European countries forced Bolivian President Evo Morales's plane to land and blocked its departure, at U.S. instigation, until they confirmed Snowden was not aboard.

“unless you're talking about the existence of the intelligence community itself, which is basically constructed on the idea that you can get, I think there's 4 …”

Snowden claims somewhere between 1.4 million and 4 million people in the United States hold security clearances.

“the New York Times said, we won't run the story. Because the president just said, if you run this story a month before the election, that's a very tight margin…”

Snowden claims President Bush personally warned the New York Times that running the NSA warrantless-wiretapping story before the 2004 election would put 'blood on your hands,' and that this threat is why the paper held the story until December 2005.