Jeremy Corbell on government: what the evidence says · JRE #1361

FACT CHECK // JRE #1361 // EXHIBIT LOG
EPISODE AIRED OCT 5, 2019 · THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE
CLAIM CMRIC9PVSTATUS: PUBLISHED
SUBJECT: GOVERNMENT
Timestamp1:45:26
Aired
// 00 · ABSTRACT

The short answer

Corbell claims the New York Times was wrong to report that AATIP received the $22 million UFO program funding, asserting the money actually went to a separate Harry Reid program called AAWSAP. The New York Times' December 2017 reporting established that Harry Reid secured roughly $22 million around 2007-2008 for a Defense Intelligence Agency effort, which the paper publicly identified as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

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// THE CLAIM · ON TAPE
It's a misnomer, actually, that AATIP was the recipient of the $22 million. It was actually Harry Reid who created a program called AAWSAP. AAWSAP was the sole beneficiary of that $22 million. The New York Times got it wrong.
Jeremy Corbell@ 1:45:26
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What the evidence says 01 / RECORD

The New York Times' December 2017 reporting established that Harry Reid secured roughly $22 million around 2007-2008 for a Defense Intelligence Agency effort, which the paper publicly identified as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). Former DIA program manager James Lacatski and other insiders have since stated that the formally contracted and funded program was AAWSAP (Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program), carried out largely through Bigelow Aerospace's BAASS and centered on research at Skinwalker Ranch, and that 'AATIP' referred to a related but distinct designation. In that sense Corbell's core point, that the $22 million was formally awarded to AAWSAP rather than to a program literally named 'AATIP,' reflects a documented naming distinction rather than a fabrication. However, his framing that 'the New York Times got it wrong' overstates the case: the Times accurately reported the $22 million figure and Reid's role in securing it, and the AATIP/AAWSAP relationship is a real and acknowledged naming discrepancy, not evidence the paper invented or misdirected the funding. The funding amount and Reid's involvement are undisputed.

Evidence sources 03 / EXHIBITS

Correction
· Unpublished pending quote repair: source transcript ASR garble. AAWSAP (not 'OSAP')
· ASR rendered 'AAWSAP' as 'OSAP' throughout; corrected to the real DIA program name (Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program), confirmed by Skinwalker Ranch / Harry Reid / $22M context.
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