Mel Gibson on religion: what the evidence says · JRE #2254

FACT CHECK // JRE #2254 // EXHIBIT LOG
EPISODE AIRED JAN 1, 2025 · THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE
CLAIM CMRCOS9GSTATUS: PUBLISHED
SUBJECT: RELIGION
SpeakerMel Gibson
Timestamp35:40
Aired
RulingNeeds Context

Not a true/false call. Every claim is logged with its sources; read the exhibits below.

// THE CLAIM · ON TAPE
But all of a sudden, you got something else to the point where now I mean, I mean, we got a pope that brought a a South American idol into the church to worship. Really? He did. The Pachamama.
Mel Gibson@ 35:40
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What the evidence says 01 / RECORD

During the October 2019 Vatican Synod of Bishops for the Amazon, wooden carvings depicting a naked, pregnant indigenous woman were used in a Vatican Gardens tree-planting ceremony attended by Pope Francis and were later displayed in a nearby Rome church. Critics among conservative Catholics labeled the figures a pagan fertility idol called Pachamama, while Vatican officials described them as representing life and fertility rather than an object of worship. The statues were stolen from the church on October 21, 2019 and thrown into the Tiber River, prompting Pope Francis to publicly apologize on October 25 for the theft, stating the statues had been displayed "without idolatrous intentions." No Catholic Mass or liturgy involved formal veneration of the figures as a deity; the episode centers on a contested interpretation of an inculturation display versus an idolatry accusation, not a documented act of Church-sanctioned worship. Characterizing the event as the Pope bringing an idol into the church "to worship" overstates what is documented to have occurred, since the Vatican never described the statues as objects of worship and the Pope's own remarks explicitly denied idolatrous intent.

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