Mel Gibson
guest·15 claims·1 episode·updated Jul 18, 2026
15 fact-checked claims across 1 episode on the Joe Rogan Experience. Each is a receipt: the exact quote, its timestamp, what published evidence says, and who benefits.
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Joe Rogan Experience #2254: Mel Gibson, fact-checked
15 claims by Mel Gibson·aired Jan 1, 2025
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- JRE #2254▶ 35:40
“we got a pope that brought a South American idol into the church to worship. The Pachamama.”
Gibson claims Pope Francis brought a South American idol (Pachamama) into the church to worship, characterizing it as apostasy.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:22:01
“If you wanna go to the AIDS rabbit hole, look up a guy named Peter Duesberg.”
Gibson endorses Peter Duesberg, a scientist who denies HIV causes AIDS, as a credible source to investigate.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:23:11
“They stopped using it for chemotherapy because it was killing them quicker than cancer was.”
Gibson claims AZT was discontinued as a chemotherapy drug because it killed cancer patients faster than the cancer itself.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:13:54
“I question carbon dating. Yeah.”
Gibson states he questions the validity of carbon dating as a scientific method, in response to being asked about 11,000-year-old carbon-dated structures like Gobekli Tepe.
- JRE #2254▶ 19:58
“So it tells you the story is pretty old. And they thought initially it was probably back in the 1300, but this confirmed that it was at least 2,600 years old, …”
Gibson claims a carved mural discovered at the El Mirador archaeological site confirmed the Popol Vuh myth is at least 2,600 years old, far older than previously thought (circa 1300s).
- JRE #2254▶ 31:58
“And everybody cheered and they went crazy. And then about a half an hour later, black smoke came out. That never in history has that happened, that the white s…”
Gibson claims that during the 1958 papal conclave, white smoke (signaling a new pope) was followed by black smoke, an event he says had never happened before in history.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:11:37
“But it was like they they looked at it and they did some core samples on it, and it was put out there by people advocating evolution, and they discovered that …”
Gibson claims the Zinjanthropus fossil was a hoax fabricated by evolution advocates, combining a human skull with an ape jaw.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:40:30
“It's phenomenal for just overall recovery of for everything. And it's it's also been shown to lengthen telomeres. They did a study out of Israel. Yeah. They ga…”
Gibson claims a study out of Israel showed hyperbaric oxygen therapy lengthens telomeres and decreases biological age using a 90-day protocol.
- JRE #2254▶ 51:44
“Also, the weave was a 1st century weave that was typical. And another guy, an archeologist who I knew who actually translated the passion in Aramaic, told me t…”
Gibson claims the Shroud of Turin has a first-century weave pattern and that faint images of a Tiberius-era coin are visible over the eyes of the figure.
- JRE #2254▶ 21:49
“And they now know from flying over, they use light lidar, which is this, light emitting radar. So they so when they use this laser radar shit, when they fly ov…”
Gibson claims LIDAR surveys have revealed that most of the Amazon jungle is actually man-made agricultural land, previously home to millions of people in cities now consumed by jungle.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:36:26
“Jeez. I think we both got remdesivir, which is not good. Not good. Not good. Causes kidney failure.”
Gibson claims remdesivir, the COVID antiviral he was given, causes kidney failure.
- JRE #2254▶ 11:06
“Zip. Zip. Zip. And in 2019, I think Newsom said, you know, I'm gonna take care of the forest and maintain the forest and do all that kind of stuff. He didn't d…”
Gibson claims Governor Newsom promised in 2019 to maintain California's forests to prevent wildfires and then did nothing.
- JRE #2254▶ 13:01
“There's 4 by 8 foot bricks. That's not that's man made. And it is literally the biggest pyramid in the world. It's bigger than the ones in Egypt, and it's in G…”
Gibson claims a pyramid (La Danta at El Mirador, Guatemala) is literally the biggest pyramid in the world, bigger than any in Egypt.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:30:30
“He got bit by mosquitoes. He had, you know, malaria, which is interesting to note that he used to take hydroxychloroquine and they get a malaria attack. Crazy?…”
Gibson recounts his father using hydroxychloroquine for malaria and implies its price-gouged unavailability for his own COVID treatment reflects suppression of an effective COVID remedy.
- JRE #2254▶ 1:37:10
“I don't believe that there is anything that can afflict mankind that hasn't got a natural cure for it. I think that there has to be. It just makes sense to me.”
Gibson claims every disease that afflicts mankind has a natural cure, and separately recounts three friends with stage 4 cancer who recovered after taking ivermectin, fenbendazole, and methylene blue.