Vaers on the Joe Rogan Experience
4 fact-checked claims across 2 episodes · Dec 2021 to Jun 2023 · updated Jul 10, 2026
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“And that's CDC's own study says it undercounts injuries by between 10 and 100 percent. And so or 100 times, not 100 percent, 100 times. So I think VAERS has 17…”
Kennedy claims a CDC-linked study (Lazarus) shows VAERS undercounts vaccine injuries by up to 100-fold and that VAERS has 17,000 reported COVID vaccine deaths and over a million injuries.
“So if we have 9,000 Americans truly have died after the vaccine and the underreporting number is about five, we're at 45,000 American lives lost.”
McCullough calculates that applying a roughly 4-5x underreporting multiplier (which he says was derived from CMS Medicare/Medicaid death and vaccination records cited in an FDA whistleblower lawsuit) to the 9,000 US VAERS vaccine-death reports yields approximately 45,000 actual American deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines.
“they ascertained that 86% of the time, there was no other cause outside the vaccine. No other cause. 86%.”
McCullough cites a McLachlan analysis claiming that in 86% of reviewed VAERS deaths, reviewers found no cause of death other than the vaccine.
“fast forward where we are today. We're at 18,000 deaths. And this is just the VAERS, which is underreported.”
McCullough states VAERS shows 18,000 deaths reported after COVID-19 vaccination and characterizes these as all confirmed, causally-linked events, further claiming they are 'certified by the CDC' and 'really happened.'