Espionage Act on the Joe Rogan Experience

3 fact-checked claims across 1 episode · Oct 2019

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  1. the Espionage Act that the government uses against whistleblowers, meaning broadly here the sources of journalism, is fairly unique in the legal system in that…

    Snowden claims the Espionage Act functions as a strict liability crime that bars juries from considering a defendant's motive, making it effectively treated as worse than murder in court.

  2. the only way to have the courts review the legality of the programs is to establish the programs exist. But the programs are classified, so you can't establish…

    Snowden claims disclosing classified surveillance program evidence is an Espionage Act felony punishable by 10 years in prison per count, and that every significant public-interest journalism source has been charged under this same statute since Daniel Ellsberg.

  3. Tom Drake, who was a senior executive at the NSA, this is a guy who had a lot to lose, was charged under the same law as the Espionage Act. And these guys were…

    Snowden claims NSA whistleblowers Thomas Drake, Bill Binney, Kirk Wiebe and Ed Loomis were harassed by the FBI and that Drake, a senior NSA executive, was charged under the Espionage Act during the Bush era for exposing surveillance programs.