Bob Lazar

guest·8 claims·2 episodes·updated Jul 29, 2026

8 fact-checked claims across 2 episodes on the Joe Rogan Experience. Each is a receipt: the exact quote, its timestamp, what published evidence says, and who benefits.

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  1. JRE #13152:01:07

    So what it was was a device that had a little picture of a hand on a glass plate with pins in it, so you could jam your hand in there.

    Lazar claims S4 used a specific hand-geometry access-control scanner, a glass plate with alignment pins that measured finger-bone length via light, to grant entry and print security badges.

  2. JRE #24792:58:31

    In fact, you need 223 grams machined into a wedge like this. The program out at S-4 consisted of three projects, Project Galileo, Project Sidekick, and Projec…

    Lazar states 223 grams of element 115 were needed as reactor fuel and names three specific project codenames (Galileo, Sidekick, Looking Glass) run out of S-4.

  3. JRE #24791:41:37

    there's different isotopes of every element. And element 115, just like any other element, there can be a stable version of it and a hundred or 50 different un…

    Lazar claims element 115 (moscovium) can exist in a stable isotope form alongside many unstable isotopes.

  4. JRE #13151:42

    Well, the way this went down was um at that time it was 1982 i um i put uh a jet engine in my my honda and los alamos put it on the front page of the paper sai…

    Lazar claims he worked as a physicist at Los Alamos National Labs and was featured on the front page of a local paper for building a 200-mph jet-powered Honda that he drove to work.

  5. JRE #131525:39

    2004, Dermstadt, Germany, I think is where they first fabricated four atoms. It lasted 220 milliseconds. The atoms, it's nothing, right?

    Lazar claims element 115 (moscovium) was first artificially fabricated in 2004 in Darmstadt, Germany, producing four atoms that lasted 220 milliseconds.

  6. JRE #13151:23:35

    When I was first there, there were Russian scientists at S4 that was this was early on in the project so this was before Operation Paperclip became public as w…

    Lazar claims Russian scientists were present working at S4 in the late 1980s, and that this predated public knowledge of Operation Paperclip.

  7. JRE #131540:16

    But it never got, no matter what the load was on the reactor, it never got above the ambient temperature, which is impossible. I mean, you're pulling out huge …

    Lazar claims the alien reactor he studied at S4 produced huge amounts of power without ever generating waste heat above ambient temperature, in apparent violation of the laws of thermodynamics.

  8. JRE #131527:24

    Element 115, the fuel they had, was stable. In other words, it didn't decay, it wasn't emitting radioactivity

    Lazar claims the element 115 he worked with at S4 was a stable, non-radioactive isotope used as an anti-gravity fuel source.