Bret Weinstein on history: what the evidence says · JRE #2198

FACT CHECK // JRE #2198 // EXHIBIT LOG
EPISODE AIRED SEP 4, 2024 · THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE
CLAIM CMTLWNKZSTATUS: PUBLISHED
SUBJECT: HISTORY
Timestamp47:02
Aired
// 00 · ABSTRACT

The short answer

Weinstein dates the famous Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting to 'the 1950s' as evidence that 1950s-era technology couldn't explain what was reported. Bret Weinstein attributed the Kenneth Arnold sighting to 'the 1950s,' but the incident occurred on June 24, 1947, near Mount Rainier, Washington, three years before the decade he named.

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// THE CLAIM · ON TAPE
Because if you go back to like the Kenneth Arnold sightings in the 1950s, we didn't have anything that moved like that. Nobody did. There's no way anybody had anything in the 1950s that could shoot across the sky, soundless, make no noise
Bret Weinstein@ 47:02
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What the evidence says 01 / RECORD

Bret Weinstein attributed the Kenneth Arnold sighting to 'the 1950s,' but the incident occurred on June 24, 1947, near Mount Rainier, Washington, three years before the decade he named. Arnold, a civilian pilot, reported nine bright objects flying in formation and timed their passage between Mount Rainier and Mount Adams, calculating a speed of roughly 1,200 to 1,700 mph. The Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum notes this estimate was about twice as fast as any known aircraft of that era; the first officially recorded supersonic flight, Chuck Yeager's Bell X-1 at about 700 mph, did not occur until months later. The sighting is credited with originating the term 'flying saucer' and launching the modern UFO phenomenon, but Air Force reviewers who investigated it considered Arnold a credible witness while concluding the objects were most likely a mirage rather than confirmed physical craft. Weinstein's underlying point about the reported speed exceeding known 1940s aircraft capability tracks contemporaneous accounts, but his placement of the event in the 1950s is a dating error.

Evidence sources 03 / EXHIBITS

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