Robert Malone on covid: what the evidence says · JRE #1757

FACT CHECK // JRE #1757 // EXHIBIT LOG
EPISODE AIRED DEC 1, 2021 · THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE
CLAIM CMRAZY0KSTATUS: PUBLISHED
SUBJECT: COVID
Timestamp38:12
Aired
// 00 · ABSTRACT

The short answer

Malone claims an Israeli study of ~2.5 million people found prior COVID infection (natural immunity) is 6-13x (and elsewhere 27x) more effective than vaccination at preventing hospitalized COVID. Malone is referencing Gazit et al., a retrospective cohort study from Israel's Maccabi Healthcare Services (posted as a preprint in August 2021 and later peer-reviewed and published in Clinical Infectious Diseases in 2022), which compared previously infected, unvaccinated people to vaccinated, previously uninfected people during a Delta-variant period in mid-2021.

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// THE CLAIM · ON TAPE
that study in Israel, which is like, what, 2.5 million people, I think, they said that it's between six and 13 times more effective than the vaccine. That is six or 13 times more effective in preventing hospitalized COVID.
Robert Malone@ 38:12
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What the evidence says 01 / RECORD

Malone is referencing Gazit et al., a retrospective cohort study from Israel's Maccabi Healthcare Services (posted as a preprint in August 2021 and later peer-reviewed and published in Clinical Infectious Diseases in 2022), which compared previously infected, unvaccinated people to vaccinated, previously uninfected people during a Delta-variant period in mid-2021. The study's own abstract states its population as 124,500 persons, not 2.5 million as Malone states. The 13.06-fold, 5.96-fold, and 27.02-fold figures reported in the study measured the risk of breakthrough infection or symptomatic disease, not hospitalization; the study explicitly reports that COVID-19-related hospitalizations were too few in number (single digits to low teens in each comparison arm) to allow a statistically significant comparison, and it does not report a '6-13x' or '27-fold' figure for hospitalization prevention specifically. As an observational study, it was also subject to confounders such as differing timing of infection versus vaccination and differential healthcare-seeking or testing behavior between groups, which the authors partially addressed with sensitivity analyses. A CDC-led case-control analysis from Kentucky published the same month found that vaccination provided added protection against reinfection even among the previously infected, indicating the relative-protection picture is more mixed than a single large multiplier implies. The specific hospitalization-effectiveness figures Malone cites are not supported by the cited study's actual reported results.

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