Dr. Mark Gordon on ibogaine: what the evidence says · JRE #2262

FACT CHECK // JRE #2262 // EXHIBIT LOG
EPISODE AIRED JAN 24, 2025 · THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE
CLAIM CMRGC4G1STATUS: PUBLISHED
SUBJECT: IBOGAINE
Timestamp24:07
Aired
RulingNeeds Context

Not a true/false call. Every claim is logged with its sources; read the exhibits below.

// THE CLAIM · ON TAPE
And one with one session is in the 80 percent range. With two sessions, it's somewhere around 97 percent, which is just crazy. 93 to 97 percent. It's phenomenal. I give a lot of credit to Rick Perry. In 2022, they had HB 1802, which is the first bill in any state where the state put money into a research project at Baylor
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What the evidence says 01 / RECORD

The 80 percent figure comes from an observational, self-reported survey of 88 patients at a single Mexican clinic in which 80 percent said ibogaine eliminated or drastically reduced acute withdrawal symptoms, not that they were cured of addiction. In that same study only 30 percent reported never using opioids again, and other follow-up studies found roughly 23 percent (Mexico, 30 patients) to 55 percent (New Zealand, 14 patients) abstinent at one year, none of them controlled trials. PolitiFact rated the near-identical 80 percent one-dose and 90-plus percent two-dose claim Mostly False, noting the figures appear to be anecdotal or clinic marketing data and conflate short-term withdrawal relief with long-term recovery. On the legislation, Texas HB 1802 passed in 2021 (87th Legislature), not 2022, and directed a Baylor College of Medicine study of psilocybin, MDMA and ketamine for veterans with PTSD, not ibogaine; it was an early state-funded psychedelic research measure, and dedicated ibogaine funding came later through 2025 legislation. The success rates are unsupported and the bill details are inaccurate on date and substance.

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