Kanye West on history: what the evidence says · JRE #1554

FACT CHECK // JRE #1554 // EXHIBIT LOG
EPISODE AIRED OCT 1, 2020 · THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE
CLAIM CMRCORTKSTATUS: PUBLISHED
SUBJECT: HISTORY
SpeakerKanye West
Timestamp2:29:21
Aired
RulingNeeds Context

Not a true/false call. Every claim is logged with its sources; read the exhibits below.

// THE CLAIM · ON TAPE
The powers of our political system are still anchoring on Electoral College, which was based around slavery, about the idea of slaves being three fifths of man.
Kanye West@ 2:29:21
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What the evidence says 01 / RECORD

Kanye West claimed the Electoral College "was based around slavery, about the idea of slaves being three fifths of man." Historians agree the three-fifths compromise, which counted enslaved people as three-fifths of a person for congressional apportionment, was carried over into the Electoral College formula, since each state's electoral votes equal its House seats plus Senate seats; this inflated the political power of slaveholding states, most visibly benefiting Virginia in the early republic. However, the historical record does not support the claim that the Electoral College was "based around" slavery as its primary or sole cause: the system was also a deliberate compromise between large and small states (mirroring the Senate's equal-representation structure) and reflected the framers' broader distrust of direct popular election. FactCheck.org has noted the three-fifths clause is properly understood as one of several constitutional limits on direct democracy rather than the sole origin of the Electoral College. The claim is best characterized as partly accurate but overstated: slavery's three-fifths clause materially shaped the Electoral College's math, but calling it the basis of the system omits the large-state/small-state and anti-direct-democracy motives historians also document.

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